OnBlackheath – post party post


As thoughts move to Christmas, and what promises to be an excellent Blackheath Village Day on 6th December, it’s worth just pausing to recall what was undoubtedly one of the most important village events this year – yes, OnBlackheath.  For those not lucky enough to be there, here’s our blow-by-blow account.

Now the dust has settled, we Radicals remain convinced the event was a great success and look forward to future offerings (though how anything will top Grace Jones and her hula-hoop is difficult to imagine…).  Not everyone agrees of course but insofar as we can tell, the broad consensus seems to be relatively favourable to OnBlackheath – and seems to have become more favourable following the event itself.

Here we provide to bits of feedback: (1) the Blackheath Society survey results – and our take on them; and (2) a read-out of the post-event public meeting held at the Greenwich Hotel on 6th November.


(1) Blackheath Society survey

The survey findings can be found on the front page of the Society’s website: www.blackheath.org

The Revolt was very pleased to promote the survey and welcomed the fact that the Society had taken the trouble to conduct it and then analyse and present the results.  Though we may differ with the Society over the merits of the event, it’s hard not to agree that finding out what locals thought about it was a good thing to do.

There’s no single headline conclusion from the survey, which rewards a careful reading, but for we Radicals perhaps the most telling result is that for all categories of respondant (‘All’, ‘Local’ and ‘Closest’) preceptions of the event improved – i.e. became more positive – after it had happened.  In other words, the worst fears of some were not in fact realised.  The extent of this shift ranges from a 14% improvement (for ‘All’) to a 6% improvement (for ‘Closest’).

Some further reflections on the results:

  • there were 641 valid responses – it would be useful to know how many non-valid responses there were and the reasons they were not valid.


  •  without wishing to be churlish it’s probably fair to say that results in the section on the pre-event public meeting and how informative this was are somewhat misleadingly presented.  Only 38 respondents attended the public meeting – some 5.9%.  But of these 31 found it informative.  The survey presents this as 4.8% of respondents finding the meeting informative but it’s clearly unfair to use the total number of respondents as the denominator in this comparison – because how could those not at the meeting possibly be expected to find it informative?  Surely the fair comparsion is that 31 out of 38 people who attended it found the public meeting informative – that is, 82%.


  • there are a series of minor gripes about how some of the results are described – that 56.5% of ‘Closest’ respondents knew about the pre-event meeting is described as “only” 56.6%.  But hang-on, strictly speaking isn’t this the ‘majority’?  Not worth falling-out over for sure, but neutral language it aint…


  • it’s striking that over half of respondents rated the behaviour of those at the event as ’10’ (the highest, positive, score).  This is in stark contrast to the wild comments from some about what attendees would do, with talk of people being drunk, sick “and worse” in their front gardens (read our comments pages for more like this).


  • and it does seem a bit unrepresentative to highlight in a survey of over 600 the comments of a ‘couple’ of people about “agressive guarding” – this couldn’t be further from the truth in our experience nor, if the Tweets on the day are anything to go by, the bulk of people there.


To reiterate – we Radicals welcome the survey and applaude the Blackheath Society for taking the effort to run it.  The comments above simply represent our observations having considered the survey findings in detail.


(2) Post Event Public Meeting

We’re grateful to two friends of the Revolt who were able to attend the meeting and provide the following read-out.  For a write-up of the pre-event public meeting click here.

The meeting opened with On Blackheath representatives outlining the positive feedback they had received from Lewisham Council and other stakeholders about the event and they were pleased to report there had been no arrests. The weather had been good and the heath was left in a very similar condition to how it was found (there were contingency plans to cover the ground in case of bad weather). The vast majority of visitors were local and used public transport and there did not seem to have been any problems with parking in the vicinity.

There were however two problems.

Firstly, although the noise volume of the event was within the licence limit, there had been problems with the second stage where the speakers were facing Hare and Billet Road and these made an excessive amount of noise for residents in the line of the sound waves. The “sound map” of the event did not take this in to accounts. There were calls from residents regarding this on both days.

The second recognised problem was the lateness in disseminating information to the local community, especially the shuttle bus.

On Blackheath said that both these points would be rectified for future festivals.

There followed a question and answer session chaired by Kevin Bonavia.   The discussion often veered away from On Blackheath to more general concerns about the use of the heath in future. This is suggestive of the fact that On Blackheath did not cause the prophesied problems.

There were question about relocating On Blackheath to a different part of the heath, there were various points raised, but it seemed to boil down to the fact that after several years of getting to a position where On Blackheath could hold their festival they were disinclined to make any changes that could lead to objections and a further set of delays. It was also stated that a two day event was necessary to recoup the cost of the infrastructure and five days needed to set up due to health and safety; this would necessitate the closing the Hare and Billet Road and removal of width restrictors near the Hare and Billet (seemingly to some this is much akin to opening the gates of Hell).

There has also been an application from the Jimmy Mizen Foundation, although they have obtained a licence from Lewisham council, further consultations are needed. There appeared to be no legal limit to the number of events that could be held, although there are numerous hoops that any potential show would have to jump through. The most likely prospect on the horizon would be On Blackheath and a Jimmy Mizen show in the same year, but on different parts of the heath.

Following on from this there was some debate as to whether Lewisham council sees the heath as a revenue generating opportunity. It was suggested that there is more appetite for live music (fed by the change in how record companies make money), and the somewhat ambiguous statement that the heath is to be managed for the benefit of the public. It was put forward that the heath has not been used for commercial events in the past, although the circus and funfair give a counterpoint to this – at least in principal if not in scale.

The meeting went on past time, and the representatives of the Revolt by this time had a gnawing hunger so departed to one of the fine dining establishments in Greenwich. We took from the meeting that On Blackheath had been a success for the organisers and they would be pushing for more of the same next year (with application for the full 25,000 attendees allowed by the licence); some fellow residents had suffered some discomfort and inconvenience, but On Blackheath took these concerns seriously and aimed to address them as best they could.

2 thoughts on “OnBlackheath – post party post

  1. Surely the figures on the response of those who attended the pre-event meeting should be taken in the context of the number that attended, with the survey respondents who attended that as a proportion? IE how many attenders took the trouble to reply to the survey. Sorry if that seems like carping. Otherwise, thank you for this analysis.

    • Thanks. The number who attended the pre-event should be expressed as a proportion of all respondents – to get a turn-out rate if you like. But the number of respondents who attended and found the pre-event useful should be expressed as a proportion of all who attended the pre-event meeting, not all respondents. The alternative would be like asking all viewers of the BBC, for example, whether they enjoyed last night’s episode of Eastenders rather than that sub-set that actually watched it.

      Time to call in Carole Voderman perhaps…

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